Casellati does not pass, the quorum of 505 fails and even stops below 400 votes, losing several dozen even by the center-right, which is now in fibrillation.
These are the official results of the fifth ballot: 382 votes for Casellati, 46 for Mattarella, 38 for Di Matteo, 8 for Berlusconi, 7 for Tajani and Cartabia, 6 for Casini, 3 for Draghi, 2 for Belloni and Joseph Cesar Perrin, ideologue of 'Union Valdotaine. Nine votes were dispersed, as well as null ballots, 11 blank ballots, 406 abstentions.
Fifth black smoke, therefore, and from 5 pm the sixth attempt to elect the President of the Republic.
The conference of group leaders has in fact decided to vote twice a day to speed up the times. From tomorrow the two votes will be held at 9.30 and 16.30. In any case, a break of an hour and a half must remain between one vote and the next to allow the hemicycle to be sanitized.
The chronicle of the fifth day
20.05 - We start again - With 5 minutes delay the session resumes. The call of the regional delegates begins.
8.18 pm - The sixth voting closed, the scrutiny begins
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8.15 pm - Conte: "Well a woman president" - " I have the impression that Salvini is sensitive, I hope for the whole parliament, for the possibility of a woman president, the M5s has always said so". Giuseppe Conte (M5S) speaking of "at least two figures, solid and super partes".
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19.55 - Salvini: "I work for a female president" - "I'm working to have a female president, a smart woman, I don't mention names or surnames". Thus the leader of the Lega Matteo Salvini. Who adds: "Now I am working so that there is a union of intentions and votes and tomorrow it will close, and the government will return to work in full office".
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7.45 pm - Session suspended for a quarter of an hour. Then it starts again with the vote of the regional delegates.
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19.38 - After the first call of the deputies. The second starts immediately
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19.30 - Read: "We are discussing a name" "We are discussing a name. But it is complicated and not easy also due to the fact that for days we went to other tracks ”. Pd secretary Enrico Letta said so. He adds: “This is a discussion that could have started days ago. Now we really start, we ran around in circles for four days. Quickly but for a good solution. I don't speak publicly about names, whatever name I name is a name that has a difficulty. I want to stick to sobriety. "
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Bonino: "If Draghi is removed from Chigi, the castle collapses" - Video:
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19.20 - Read: "Broad understanding, quickly" - "I don't know if tomorrow is a good day. We try to be as fast and efficient as possible: everyone is a minority but it is important that within the majority that supports the government find an agreement, which can be even wider. ”This was said by the Pd leader Enrico Letta.
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19.11 - Salvini sees the big blues - League secretary Matteo Salvini also talks with Tajani and Ronzulli. “We are working to give a positive response to the country, at a high level and outside the parties, overcoming vetoes and wasting time”, reads a note from the Carroccio.
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6.40 pm - The names of the center left. Letta: "I'm confident"
Draghi, Belloni, Casini and Mattarella would be the names put on the table by the center-left: this is what transpires from center-left sources. Enrico Letta commented with reporters at Montecitorio that he is "confident".
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18.30 - Salvini met Draghi
The secretary of the League, Matteo Salvini, met with Prime Minister Mario Draghi. The two were seen exiting a few minutes away from each other from the same building near via Veneto.
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18.20 - Meeting in the Salvini-Letta-Conte room
A meeting is underway in the Chamber, as we learn, between Matteo Salvini, Enrico Letta and Giuseppe Conte.
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18.15 - Off to the vote of the deputies
The vote of the senators for the election of the President of the Republic was concluded in the Chamber. Now the deputies vote.
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5.50 pm - Bernini (Fi): "Negotiation open with the center left"
"We have opened negotiations" with the center-left, "let's see". This was stated by the parent company in the Senate of Forza Italia, Anna Maria Bernini, speaking with reporters in the Chamber.
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17.30 - Toti: "Tonight the name, Mattarella is not on the field"
"I hope that by evening we have the name of the 'quirinabile' so that tomorrow we can close the game and elect the President of the Republic". The governor of Liguria Giovanni Toti said this, speaking to the cameras outside Montecitorio. Sergio Mattarella, added, "is not on the field, with great honesty he has said many times that he is not interested and would consider it wrong, that Parliament considers him a refuge I think it is flattering" but "he is not on the field".
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5.25pm - Bossi: "Bis di Mattarella is possible, you can't hit a nail here"
Can Sergio Mattarella be re-elected at Colle? "Yes", the senator of the Lega Umberto Bossi replied, nodding his head with conviction. "Draghi, etc., here you can't beat a nail", added the founder of the Carroccio, speaking to journalists on the Transatlantic.
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5.15 pm - Sources M5s: "Conte feels the center right"
The leader of the M5s Giuseppe Conte is feeling the center-right that "after this institutional forcing and the failure of the test appears very divided". This was reported by qualified sources of the M5s who add: "The negotiations are intensifying".
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5 pm - Start of the sixth vote
Via alla sixth he calls to Montecitorio for the election of the President of the Republic. At the bench of the presidency there are not the presidents of the Chamber and Senate Roberto Fico and Elisabetta Alberti Casellati but the vice president Fabio Rampelli. The quorum required is that of the absolute majority of the members of the Board.
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16.55 - Also from Italy blank ballot in the sixth vote
Italia viva will vote blank in the sixth vote for the Quirinale. It is learned from sources of Iv after the group assembly.
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16.55 - Pd, M5s and Leu will vote blank ballot
On the sixth ballot, the center left announced its intention to vote on a blank ballot. A very rapid scrutiny is therefore expected.
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16.50 - Center-right towards abstention
The League towards abstention in the sixth vote for the election of the President of the Republic scheduled for 5 pm, as reported in a text message distributed to the party's electors. In reality, it seems that the entire center-right is directed towards abstention at the next vote.
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16.30 - Mura (PD): "Now let's open a sharing table"
"I trust that the photograph of the center-right that emerges from this latest vote will lead Lega, FI and also FdI to finally open that sharing table hoped for by the secretary Letta where to identify a name: it is time to choose." This was stated by the president of the Labor commission Romina Mura (Pd).
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16.00 - Meloni: "Fdi and Lega loyal, the others aren't"
"Brothers of Italy, even in the fifth vote, is confirmed as a solid and loyal party. Even the League holds. Not so for others. There are those who in this election, from the beginning have openly worked to prevent the historic election of a center-right president. The tens of millions of Italians who believe in us do not deserve to be treated like this. Thus the leader of FdI, Giorgia Meloni.
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15.50 - Letta-Conte-Speranza meeting in progress
Meeting in progress at the Pd group of the Chamber between Enrico Letta, Giuseppe Conte and Roberto Hope to take stock of the vote after the black smoke on Elisabetta Casellati, a candidate from the center-right to the Hill. Together with the leaders of the Pd, M5S and Leu there are the group leaders.
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15.40 - Go to the new center-right summit
According to what is learned, a new center-right summit has begun. The meeting in
offices of the League in the Chamber.
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15.30 - Brugnaro: "After Casellati all that remains is Draghi"
"After Casellati all that remains is Mario Draghi". This was declared by Luigi Brugnaro, mayor of Venice and leader of Coraggio Italia.
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15.05 - The official results of the fifth vote
These are the results of the fifth vote: 382 votes for Casellati, 46 for Mattarella, 38 for Di Matteo, 8 for Berlusconi, 7 for Tajani and Cartabia, 6 for Casini, 3 for Draghi, 2 for Belloni and Joseph Cesar Perrin, ideologue of Union Valdotaine. Nine votes were dispersed, as well as null ballots, 11 blank ballots, 406 abstentions.
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14.50 - Casellati does not pass
Elisabetta Casellati does not pass, the president of the Senate gets only 382 votes, 505 were needed to reach the quorum. If we consider yesterday's 441 abstentions and 453 big center-right voters in total, Casellati has lost dozens of votes among her own too.
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2.30 pm - Casellati exceeds 100 votes, 406 abstentions
The President of the Senate over 100 votes, 505 are needed for the election. Votes also for Di Matteo and Mattarella. Some votes also for Tajani and Berlusconi, presumably from exponents of the center-right who do not agree with Casellati's choice. There are 406 abstentions.
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2.20 pm - The voting is over, the counting starts
The fifth vote in Montecitorio for the election of the President of the Republic ended. Waiting for the outcome, the center-right voted Casellati, Pd-M5S and LeU abstained.
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13.50 - The deputies voted, it's up to the delegates of the Regions
After he calls it some deputies in the Chamber of Deputies. The session resumes at 2 pm with the vote of the regional delegates.
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13.45 - Hope: "It's time to see the numbers"
"This is the time to see the numbers, let's wait". Minister Roberto Speranza said this, referring to the scrutiny in progress and responding to journalists who asked him what the center-left's moves will be.
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13.20 - Pd: "Inappropriate Casellati presides over the ballot"
"It is totally inappropriate for President Casellati in today's counting to co-preside over the ballot, effectively checking the votes for herself. In 1992, when Oscar Luigi Scalfaro found himself in a similar condition, he refrained from presiding over the ballot, leaving the task to the vice president Rodotà. We hope the institutions will have the same respect ". This is what Enrico Borghi of the national secretariat of the Democratic Party declares.
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1.00 pm - Conte: "We abstain because of institutional forcing"
"We do not participate in these counts on the shoulders of institutional offices. It is the reason why, I want to explain it to all Italian citizens, we have decided to abstain. We are here but in this way we prefer not to participate in a count precipitated in this way. It is an institutional forcing ". The leader of the M5s Giuseppe Conte said this.
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12.25 - Salvini: "Made the maximum possible proposal"
"There is no superior institutional figure, apart from Mattarella, that the Republic can express, plus President Casellati is a woman. Why should she be divisive? And she generously made herself available". Thus the leader of the Lega Matteo Salvini at a press conference in Montecitorio. In the meantime, after the vote of the senators, the calling of the deputies began.
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12.10 - Pd-M5S-LeU desert meeting requested by Salvini
No majority meeting. The leaders of Pd, M5s and Leu, Enrico Letta, Giuseppe Conte and Roberto Speranza deserted the meeting proposed by Matteo Salvini. The three center-left leaders met for about three hours at the headquarters of the Pd group in the Chamber. The meeting has just ended.
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11.50 am - Bersani: "Casellati doesn't have the numbers"
"In these moments it takes numerical hold and not only that ... We abstain today and we hope that after today the center-right understands that the only solution is a candidate of the government majority, maybe even voted by the opposition". Thus Pier Luigi Bersani questioned in the Transatlantic on the decision of the center right to vote Elisabetta Casellati.
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11.40 am - Pd-M5S-LeU: "We abstain"
"We consider the unilateral candidacy of the second position of the state, announced one hour before the fifth vote, a serious error. Out of respect for the institutions, today we will cast an abstention vote in the present non-voting formula". Thus Pd, M5s and Leu at the end of the summit of the 3 leaders. Abstention is also a way of easily identifying any snipers in the parties who express themselves for Casellati.
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11.25 am - Berlusconi's appeal: "All Parliament votes Casellati"
"The center-right has found an agreement for this morning's vote on Elisabetta Casellati who from President of the Senate, Second State Office, would become First State Office. I have known Elisabetta Casellati for over 30 years and I can guarantee on her absolute adequacy to this possible new super partes role. For this reason I turn to parliamentarians from all sides, to ask them to support Casellati ". This is what we read in a post on Silvio Berlusconi's social channels.
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11.20 am - Senators Pd-M5S-LeU do not answer the first call
Abstention in the center-left? At the first call the senators of Pd, Movimento 5 Stelle and LeU are not answering.
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11.05 am - Meloni: "The only solution is to go to elections"
"With this Parliament, nothing is decided. The solution is elections. Now we are fighting and on the basis of what happens we will make our assessments". Thus the leader of FdI, Giorgia Meloni at Montecitorio. "The center-right is compact, but it's also very attractive."
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11 am - The fifth vote begins
The fifth vote of the Parliament in joint session, integrated by the regional delegates to elect the President of the Republic, kicks off in the Chamber of Deputies. At the bench of the presidency are the presidents of the Chamber and Senate Roberto Fico and Elisabetta Alberti Casellati. The quorum required is that of the absolute majority of the members of the Board.
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10.55 am - Short Salvini-Renzi meeting
Brief meeting in the offices of the Lega group in the Chamber between Matteo Salvini and Matteo Renzi in the Chamber. The meeting lasted about ten minutes.
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10.50 am - From today two votes a day
From today double calls to Montecitorio to elect the present of the Republic. The second will be held at 5 pm The group leaders have decided. Voting will take place tomorrow at 9.30 and 16.30. In any case, a break of an hour and a half must remain between one vote and the next to sanitize the hemicycle.
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10.40 am - Tajani: "Let's try the blitz to win the game"
"We have decided to vote compactly Casellati. The left seems to have finally decided to enter the Chamber to vote, so we have the opportunity seriously to attempt the blitz and try to win the game. For Forza Italia it would be an extraordinary success". According to what is learned, the national coordinator of FI, Antonio Tajani said at the assembly of the great electors of his party, adding: "It is the day of blue pride".
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10.20 am - Zan (Pd): "If Casellati passes, you go to the vote"
"If Casellati passes, the term is over". This is the tweet of Alessandro Zan, deputy of the Democratic Party on the race for the Quirinale.
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10 am - Salvini invites the leaders of the majority to a meeting
Matteo Salvini formally invited all the leaders of the majority that supports the Draghi government before the vote. The League makes it known. He asks for a meeting before 11, the time for the start of the vote
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9.50 am - Pd, M5S, LeU: blank card or other names
Orientation for white paper, but also evaluations on alternative candidacies. This is what the leaders of the M5s, Pd and Leu, meeting in the Chamber, are evaluating. It is learned from center-left sources.
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9.45 am - Official, center-right votes Casellati
The big center-right voters will vote for the President of the Senate, Elisabetta Casellati at the call this morning. This was decided by the summit of leaders.
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9.30 - Read: "Maybe I was wrong to trust"
"I'm sincerely asking myself if I was right to trust us, we were carried around for three days," said Enrico Letta, commenting on the hypotheses put forward by the center-right. "We have always worked for unity. The impression is that they have tried to divide us, with imaginative ideas with the aim of dividing and not finding a solution for the country".
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9.15 am - Meloni: "Nothing can be decided with this Parliament"
"The desolation of the manfrine on the election of the President of the Republic certifies 2 things that Fdi has always supported: with this Parliament it is impossible to decide anything, and if the Italians had elected the PdR they would have done so in a day". So Giorgia Meloni, on twitter.
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9 am - Renzi: "Casellati last center-right card, then the agreement"
"If the center-right believes they have to play even the card of the second position of the state, obviously I think it is the last card they want to play before a possible agreement. Let's say that I try to see the positive aspect". Thus the leader of Italy alive Matteo Renzi commenting on the hypothesis of a candidacy of Elisabetta Casellati for the presidency of the Republic, on Radio Leopolda.
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8.50 am - Renzi: "I don't exclude Mattarella bis"
"I do not exclude the hypothesis that there may also be a Mattarella bis, it would be a stretch against Mattarella and extremely incorrect but on Friday morning or the affair is resolved in the next few hours or this hypothesis is on the field with all its strength". Thus the leader of Italia viva, Matteo Renzi on Radio Leopolda.
(Unioneonline)